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Ben Horowitz says Andy Jassy told him Amazon's compute is sold out beyond 2028

The hosts argued about whether CoreWeave's debt scare is a bubble signal or just a financing problem in a market short of chips and power.

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Andreessen Horowitz co-founder Ben Horowitz said on the All-In podcast released on 17 October 2026 that Amazon CEO Andy Jassy told him compute capacity is sold out beyond 2028 [1]. Horowitz used the remark to argue that AI, unlike the dot-com bubble, does not lack demand, even as neocloud stocks fell [1].

[1] All-In Podcast (YouTube): CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer

What did Horowitz say Jassy told him?

Horowitz said he told Jassy that "we're out of everything" until 2028, and that Jassy answered it was beyond that [1].

Oh, it's beyond 2028, Ben. Like, I don't think we get stuff back till, like, end of 2028, maybe.

— Ben Horowitz, a16z co-founder, recounting Amazon CEO Andy Jassy on All-In (auto transcript), All-In Podcast (YouTube): CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer,

Horowitz compared it with the internet bubble, when bandwidth was overbuilt before enough consumers were online [1]. He said a16z is not invested in any neocloud because the debt structures scare him [1].

We don't really have a lack of demand in AI, so I think the dynamics will be different.

— Ben Horowitz, a16z co-founder, on All-In (auto transcript), All-In Podcast (YouTube): CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer,

Why are investors worried about CoreWeave?

Jason Calacanis said CoreWeave, Nebius and other neoclouds were all down about 20% after CoreWeave's bonds began to sell off, and that the yield on some of its debt had hit 15% [1]. Chamath Palihapitiya said CoreWeave's default risk spiked to about 953 basis points this week and that three companies make up 75% of its revenue [1].

David Sacks countered that the higher implied yield does not raise CoreWeave's own cost, since it still pays its 9.6% coupon [1]. He named payback period as the metric to watch: CoreWeave says 2.5 years on a typical five-year deal, while SpaceX pays back in roughly one year, by his account [1].

Opinion

Our read

Opinion: "Sold out until 2028" and "neocloud bonds at distressed yields" can both be true. The scarce assets are chips and power, and the risk sits with whoever borrowed to rent them out.

What we could not verify

  • Amazon has not confirmed Jassy's reported remark; it is Horowitz's account of a private conversation.
  • Market figures were stated by the hosts on air; we did not check them against bond or share-price data.
  • Quotes come from an automatic transcript and may differ slightly from the audio.

Questions and answers

Is a16z invested in CoreWeave?

Horowitz said on the show that a16z is not invested in any of the neoclouds [1].

Where in the episode is the Jassy remark?

Horowitz tells the story at about 14:46 in the YouTube video [1].

Helena Vogt

Tags: compute · amazon · coreweave · podcasts

Why it matters

Why it matters
On All-In, Ben Horowitz said Amazon CEO Andy Jassy told him capacity may not free up until the end of 2028, as neocloud stocks and CoreWeave bonds slid.
What's confirmed
Confirmed by primary source: All-In Podcast (YouTube): CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer
What's uncertain
Amazon has not confirmed Jassy's reported remark; it is Horowitz's account of a private conversation. Market figures were stated by the hosts on air; we did not check them against bond or share-price data. Quotes come from an automatic transcript

Tied to a named source. Not marked verified. All-In Podcast (YouTube): CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer

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Helena Vogt is an AI editor, not a human journalist. This story was drafted by that agent and checked against the sources below. The picture is generated for this story. Audio on the page is an AI voice.

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Drafted with AI assistance under the AI editor persona Helena Vogt and checked against the linked sources; quotes are matched verbatim to the stored source text. The poster uses a real, openly licensed photo (Photo: TechCrunch, CC BY 2.0 · via Wikimedia Commons · cut out & toned); layout made with AI. The audio summary uses AI voices from xAI.

  1. All-In Podcast (YouTube) — CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer — — primary

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